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A room intended for user feedback. Leave a post if you have any suggestions to improve the site.
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w10@193 
You got it! WebM is now supported.
w10@193 
Thanks, we will definitely consider it
jackismyshephard@28 
Add CTRL+ENTER as shortcut key for posting.
Glitch4chan@216 
Another good idea would be to allow reposting (or linking) of an individual post into multiple threads rather than having to reupload the same image multiple times with multiple posts. i.e. the nightime ocean wallpaper you posted in the water thread can then be linked into the night thread.
w10@193 
As of now. We have added the following sorting filters to topics: Newest, Alphabetical order, by date created, by number of unique users that have posted in the room and by time since last post.
w10@193 
Major improvement to topic navigation in in the pipeline. We are thinking about how the layout of this should be. Expect more topic sorting options soon.
w10@193 
Yeah I agree, you are right. Hashtags on resolutions would be a great feature
Glitch4chan@216 
What you could have when you upload an image is a field for the author's commentary and a separate field for hashtags. And the cluttered hash tag field can be auto hidden when lurking a thread.
Glitch4chan@216 
Add to that the huge benefit of hashtags for specific resolutions & display ratios (i.e. #1920x1200 or #16:9 ). It would give people the option to browse all the wallpapers that fit their phone or display monitor. It spares us the redundancy of having topics for specific screen resolutions where wallpapers posted in other threads would be posted again there.

And an option to default hide hashtags when browsing threads would also be a good idea since all those hash tags get annoying.

Alternatively, you could just have the resolution data of each image you upload be registered into the system and be automatically searchable without the need of hashtags for resolution. But hash tags are still a good idea for other things like display ratios.
Glitch4chan@216 
Hastags should be attachable to any post.
w10@193 
Hashtags are coming soon. There is no hashtag system atm, but the feature is in the pipeline and will be rolled out real soon. Cheers
Glitch4chan@216 
With regards to edits. You could allow users to view the edit history behind an edited post to clear up any confusion in the replies. i.e. show the previous version/s of the image. An option for an overzealous editor to remove some of the edits from the edit history would also be nice and it would save storage space on the servers. Some artists don't mind leaving up previous versions of their work but others do.

On a separate note, is there a hashtag system? Can I view everything involving #StarWars or #Nintendo?
w10@193 
reply - part 2 of 2)
To your point:
"You'd end up with lots of variants of topics with different rules (that is assuming everyone can post their own topic). The topic section then becomes cluttered. People get confused over the variations. Keeping track of a certain topic may become as much of a hassle as it is here."

This is a great and foresighted observation. People are able to create new topic rooms as they wish, so this is not a trivial problem to solve. As of now, it is the responsibility of the site administrators to maintain a reasonable topic and subtopic structure. Topics can be moved as a subtopic under another topic with all its content and URL unchanged. Like moving a folder into another folder on a computer. The topic of most generality will be the parent topic.

For instance. Assume a topic /Tigers exist. Another user create a new topic 'RedTigers' as a subtopic to '/Cars'. You would have the following structure: /Tigers, /Cars/RedTigers. A site mod could move red tigers to '/Tigers' resulting in structure: /Tigers/RedTigers, /Cars. Of cause the hope is that users for the most part will create topics at sensible locations.

In the case of two variations of essentially the same topic, they would either be two competing subtopics under the same parent topic, or they could be merged into one if the topic creators agreed.

In the future this process will be more streamlined and users will be able to request a topic relocation or topic merging. If you see problems or have a better way of maintaining a sensible structure pls let me know?
w10@193 
Nice, interesting observations. Firstly, this is a new site and we are very willing to make changes in response to user feedback. However as of now, the following stands. 
-) Do posts remain up indefinitely? Yes, unless the original poster delete it.
-) Moderation rules? No content moderation from the site administrators. Users are free to post whatever.
-) Edits of posts? Currently not possible to edit posts. Reason being that replies are possible. Hence edits makes it unclear what was originally replied to. You can however, make a new post as a reply to the post you want to edit. This should accomplish similar effect no?

As a side note. Currently topic rooms supports text, images, gifs and peer voice-chat. In the future, short videos and file upload will be supported too. In addition to possible suggestions from users. Cheers
Glitch4chan@216 
The site seems interesting. Do posts remain up indefinitely? If so you may not get away with the same things you can on 4chan. Vis-à-vis copyrights, you may have to err on the side of caution even more so.

But copyrights notwithstanding, it certainly removes the redundancy of having to see the same wallpapers over & over whenever the topic gets reposted on 4chan. Also nice is the fact that nothing is lost over time and that obscure edit some anon did 5 years ago will still be accessible. And you get one big comprehensive archive of a particular topic all in one place as opposed to temporarily hosted threads that pop up sporadically on 4chan. You'd have to frequent 4chan (like once a week) to get it all whereas with depvana you could just drop by once to get it all.

On the other hand, depvana may run into issues with how it organizes topics. You'd end up with lots of variants of topics with different rules (that is assuming everyone can post their own topic). The topic section then becomes cluttered. People get confused over the variations. Keeping track of a certain topic may become as much of a hassle as it is here.

And that's to say nothing of the moderation rules. If there's anything along the lines of hAtE sPeAcH policies I probably will only ever lurk there. And the internet is sick of being under the thumb of a spiteful transexual moderator on a power trip. That shit is already bad enough on 4chan. If the TOS is within reason & it's not run by power-hungry tranitors (and it really only takes one awful janitor to ruin a site) I would be very interested.

Do they allow users to edit their posts (i.e. reupload with an updated image)? If not, they should. Reuploads should also be tagged with an edit date to give people the heads up about an update.
w10@193 
Been thinking about how this should look layout wise. Do you have any preferences?
w10@193 
Thanks good idea, and btw nice comparison image. This will be implemented once we see more active users. In the mean time, I have reduced empty space on posts a little. Hopefully a step in the right direction.
w10@193 
part 2) 

Wrt. keeping the structure of topics sensible. This not a trivial problem to solve. As of now, it is the responsibility of the site administrators to maintain a reasonable topic and subtopic structure. Topics can be moved under another topic with all its content and URL unchanged. Like moving a folder into another folder on a computer. The GENERAL RULE is that the topic of most generality will be the parent topic. 

For instance. Assume a topic /Tigers exist. Another user create a new topic "RedTigers" as a subtopic to /Cars. You would have the following structure: /Tigers, /Cars/RedTigers. A site mod could move "redtigers" to /Tigers resulting in structure: /Tigers/RedTigers, /Cars. Of cause the hope is that users for the most part will create topics at sensible locations.

In the case of two variations of essentially the same topic, they would either be two competing subtopics under the same parent topic, or they could be merged into one if the topic creators agreed.

In the case of a subtopic that could be placed under two different topics, the topic creator chooses the location. An upcoming planned feature will give the option of instead of creating a new subtopic, create a link to an already existing topic. Effectively behaving as if the topic were a subtopic to both parent topic. 

In the future this process will be more streamlined and users will be able to request a topic relocation or topic merging. The question is still up for debate and I suspect it will be a trial and error search with user feedback before the optimal solution is found. If you see problems or have a better way of maintaining a sensible structure pls let me know?

Wrt. to rogue moderators. Note, it is always possible to create a new competing topic where the users can choose which room they prefer. However, we haven't yet made a policy of when to strip rogue moderators of moderator status. What do you think?
w10@193 
Everyone involved in this project are fed up with the suffocating censorship and ideological moderation seen on almost all platforms. No one wants Depvana to become a censorship demon like the rest of them. You bring up the great point:

"In absence of site-wide rules, the laws of the nation that the service is hosted in take precedent."

The servers are under the jurisdiction of Denmark. If we, against expectation have problems with this. Relocate servers we will.

With respect to funding. The plan is to mainly fund operations with user payments and to a lesser extend advertising. For user payment we are thinking about extra services and utilities. With the option for any payment to be settled in crypto currency. Many possibilities here which we will elaborate on later.

Regarding advertising. We do not collect data on users. What we plan offer advertisers is to choose which kinds of topic rooms they want to advertise in. Hence no user is targeted by advertisers individually, as is the case on other platforms.